Maude ďGrandmaĒ Supernaw
Interviewed by: Bill Supernaw, Jr.
Interview Date: 1962
Transcribed by: Rise Supernaw Proctor & Billy Supernaw Proctor
Subject:
Quapaw Name Giving

Quapaw Name Giving

 Bill: What do you have to have to give a name?

Grandma: Oh, we got to have, got to have a, pan, uh, just anything that uh, puts goods in it, pan or skillet or whatever you want to, just get pan, four yards of white goods and, and tobacco, and a eagle feather, and a shell (1). Letís see, a pan, and good(s), tobacco, eagle feather Ö.

Irene: Shell.

Bill: Shell.

Grandma: Shell.

Irene: Who gave Mary (2) her name?

Grandma: Oh, Ms. Fire.

Irene: Oh.

Grandma: Thatís her grandmother (3) too, Ms. Fire. She got it for him (her), my father give them all this name.

Irene: Oh.

Grandma: One of Ö. you want give us a name, you have to tell somebody get it for him, if you donít, you have to go yourself, get your name.

Bill: Oh.

Grandma: Get it. When sometimes when they get sick you have to, second time you have to go back and uh, you have to give a, like doctor, you know, give a little more, add to it, you give a, anything a little, bigger you have to give, if you got horse or just anything, thatís just a Ö. you want them to get well, you have to give something better, so they get well sometime.

Thatís the way I do, when I was small they, they do to me. We spent, oh, a cow sometime and uh, give ole cow and a horse away and, and they told me, they told that, Quapaw, Indian doctor told, when I be twelve years old I wonít be sick anymore. I Ö. Uh, sure enough, on a twelve years old I never did get sick.


(1) Odestine McWatters says the shells were button shells with two holes, kind of cupped and pinkish.

(2) Grandmaís daughter by Willie Thompson.

(3) Irene Supernaw said that this was Mary Thompsonís aunt.
   
 
 

Maude ďGrandmaĒ Supernaw
Interviewed by: Bill Supernaw, Jr.
Interview Date: 1969
Transcribed by: Rise Supernaw Proctor & Billy Supernaw Proctor
Subject: Appointing Chiefs & Name Giving

Appointing Chiefs & Name Giving

 Bill: You said while ago, now, this is Grandma Supernaw, you s Ö. Grandma, didnít you say while ago that you didnít want any more Chiefs?

Grandma: Huh uh! I donít want no Chief, anybody.

Bill: You donít want nobody to be Chief no more?

Grandma: No!

Bill: When your daddy (Tall Chief-Louis Angel) died thatís all you wanted, huh?

Grandma: Uh huh!

Bill: It was left up to you?

Grandma: Yeah, just up to me, so, when Iím gone, Iím gone, thatís all!

Bill: And you donít want nobody to give names to anybody?

Grandma: Huh uh! No! Nobody ainít going to give a name neither. Thatís all there is to it, thatís the end of it, I guess.

Bill: Now, while ago you said that you, you appointed Irvin (Wilson) for last one and Sidney, you know, Second Chief.

Grandma: Um-huh!

Bill: And thatís all you are going to appoint?

Grandma: Yeah! Irvin is Second Chief and, and he died.

Bill: Yeah.

Grandma: And Victor first and Irvin Second Chief and he died. So, I donít know who, Iím afraid to, Iím afraid to appoint, appoint somebody Chief. Iím afraid he wonít live long, thatís reason. I donít want to give a, I donít want no Chief. And like you say, McKibben want Chief. If he want, uh, if he donít want live long, he can have Chief, want, want to, but then, thatís all I can say. People what they want Chief, find out they donít. Quapaw all going be dying, dying anyhow, so, all mixed up after while, all kind of Indians and, White and, different kind of Indian, so, canít be Chief, anybody, thatís all I can say.

We lost everything when, uh, when my father died, so, Iím here giving name too, but nobody ainít going to give a name, so, thatís all there is to it, I can say. So, that be end of it. Thatís all.

Bill: So anybody thatís, wants to be Chief, thereís something happen to them, huh?

Grandma: Huh?

Bill: Anybody that wants to be Chief, thereís something going to happen to them, is that what you said a while ago?

Grandma: Yeah! See, I donít know how long live, how long live, Irvin, when he was Chief? You know?

Bill: Oh, well, he lived quite awhile. Well, they wouldnít listen to Irvin, See, but he was a good one.

Grandma: Yeah, sure! Sure with Mr. Irvin.

Bill: But he had a heart attack, like I did, see.

Grandma: Um huh. I donít know, anybody that wants to be Chief, explain to them first to see if he be Chief, want to, could go ahead Chief, thatís all I can say. But Irvin got all records, he had, like that, you know, and he thought maybe he be chief too, I guess. If he ainít afraid to die, he can go ahead, thatís all I can say.
   

Maude ďGrandmaĒ Supernaw
Interviewed by: Bill Supernaw, Jr.
Interview Date: 1969
Transcribed by: Rise Supernaw Proctor & Billy Supernaw Proctor
Subject:
Full Blood Quapaws

Full Blood Quapaws

Bill: Who told you, uh, you were telling me, that somebody told you that there wouldnít be no Quapaws anymore?

Grandma: Huh?

Bill: Somebody said there wouldnít be no Quapaws anymore, who said that?

Grandma: After while, wonít be no Quapaw, wonít be no Quapaw anymore, thatís what they told me, my father (Tall Chief). Oh, old people, thatís what they say and my father say that too.

Bill: Well, how many full bloods they got now?

Grandma: Huh?

Bill: How many full blood Quapaws are there?

Grandma: Just, you know how much left down there, thatís all.