Maude “Grandma” Supernaw
Interviewed by: Bill Supernaw, Jr.
Interview Date: 1962
Transcribed by: Rise Supernaw Proctor & Billy Supernaw Proctor
Subject:
Quapaw Peyote  (1962 Interview)

Quapaw Peyote
(1962 Interview)

 Bill: Who started this Peyote?

Grandma: Oh, John Wilson, Moonhead they call.

Bill: Moonhead.

Grandma: He started, uh, Caddo, half ….

Bill: John Logan?

Grandma: Uh huh, half Delaware, his mother Delaware, I guess. So, he start it, come down there too Wilson, down there at the, Reed (Wilson’s) father (1), he (Moonhead) come down there first to eat, teach him down there awhile, and then, and they want to know, my, uh, my father (Tallchief-Louis Angel) want him to come(2).

He (Moonhead) hear it and say “Yeah, he can come”. He used to drink all time. So, he come after that, and Mary (3), she’s about eight month old when he come (1898), and, and they, they come up there in their, their squaw wagon. So, uh, he, he fixing for, uh, go in that, they build tent and where they go in there (Quapaw Creek, Skiatook).

And Osage come, Claremore, oh, Claremore and, uh, some old people there, Black Dog and Claremore they come, so they went in there. John Logan, they went in there, eat medicine, and uh ….

Bill: Any Shawnees or Creeks?

Grandma: Huh?

Bill: Any Shawnees or Creeks?

Grandma: Huh?

Irene: He says was there any Shawnee or Creek Indian, then, took that?

Grandma: Uh, huh, ya.

Irene: Was there?

Grandma: They don’t eat that then.

Irene: No, they don’t.

Grandma: Just Osage eating it, then. So, uh, so they learn that, eating it, so Quapaw call, uh, they know, they come, they eat too. Four, have meeting four time, but they quit that. They went back (to Quapaw), and my father he want his tent down there, Quapaw, so, he had teepee made down at Quapaw. Where they’re dancing now, right along there somewhere (east of present dance grounds), and that’s all, and Quapaw that’s all, Osage that’s all they eating then, they, that days and Delaware.


(1) Ice Wilson’s place just west of Quapaw Creek near present day town of Skiatook, Oklahoma.

(2) To his place just east of Quapaw Creek near present day town of Skiatook, Oklahoma.

(3) (Mary Thompson-Williams, Mary Maude “Grandma” Supernaw’s oldest daughter.
   
 
 

Maude “Grandma” Supernaw
Interviewed by: Bill Supernaw, Jr.
Interview Date: 1965
Transcribed by: Rise Supernaw Proctor & Billy Supernaw Proctor
Subject: Quapaw Peyote Meetings (1965 Interview)

Quapaw Peyote Meetings
(1965 Interview)

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 Bill: Did all them Osages used to come over here for Peyote Meetings, huh?

Grandma: Uh huh, and they commenced to, after we live up there, uh, John Wilson come (1898), so my father quit stomp dance, so we just go eat Peyote, eat.

Bill: Oh!

Grandma: So he (Tall Chief) had one, they have meeting there four time, but Black Dog and Claremore and, uh, Ms., uh, from Hom, uh, Barnsdall, Louis Bighorse, they come. They want one moon and house there like they had, you know.

Bill: Yeah.

Grandma: Moon, build house, and uh, Cla …. Claremore, he want one, so they fix him one, and uh, Blackdog, he want one, they fix him one, and uh, Francis Claremore he, he had one too, he come meeting all the time. So, that’s how come that they all have teepee up there.

Bill: Oh.

Grandma: And they take his (Tall Chief’s) down to Quapaw, he build his, uh, moon down there.

Bill: Who?

Grandma: Your grandpa (Tall Chief).

Bill: Oh, yeah.

Grandma: Uh, you know that moon we had.

Bill: Yeah, uh huh.

Grandma: That’s where he had build his (1).

Bill: Oh.

Grandma: That’s all. He have house on it but somebody burn it up, that house. So I guess, uh, …. so.

Bill: How many was up there (at Quapaw)? Just Pete Clabber’s and that one or what?

Grandma: Uh, they move back, they all moved back then.

Bill: Oh, they all moved back.

Grandma: Yeah.

Bill: Oh.

Grandma: They ain’t no Quapaw around here then (around 1898).


(1) Located just east of present day Quapaw Pow Wow grounds on Supernaw-Proctor land.
 
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