Maude “Grandma” Supernaw
Interviewed by: Bill Supernaw, Jr.
Interview Date: 1962
Transcribed by: Rise Supernaw Proctor & Billy Supernaw Proctor
Stick Dance

Stick Dance

 Grandma: And uh, they have a, Stick Dance, old people, they have, used to be. They call it special dance, somebody sick and so, they give that once in while, they dance. They use dry corn, and uh, so they have dance and give a date and come tell my father first. So, he singing, he’s the only one sing, know that so, he went over there to camp and, when they get ready to, and they cook corn first and getting ready, and they getting ready to dance, and my father pick out dancer, uh, eight dancer, and four singer, and uh, four women, special. Uh, a chief daughter, so, oh, Lane, Aunt Mary, she’s chief daughter too, she dance. I dance with her every since I was, ever since I was a little girl. So, that special dance they have, and uh, when my father sing they dance, uh, they carry special leader too, oh and uh, he, he lead, uh, four time and go round, and they quit and they sit down, and give all smoke pipe, give a smoke, and singer too give a smoke pipe. And they get through and they dance again, same thing, dance four time and then they quit, and then, and uh, eat that dry corn, feed all them, uh, singer first and grandpa, my father first. Singer and a dancer, eight of them, they feed them, put in a pan. Feed them, what corn left, oh, all, all, all rest of them they give away, they come get it and they want, they want to eat corn. So when they get through they carry that, stick away. They, they put that stick away, and that’s all to it.

Bill: Who was this Chief’s daughter, that you danced with?

Grandma: Huh?

Bill: Who was that woman you danced with?

Grandma: Oh, uh, Joe Lane aunt.

Bill: Oh.

Grandma: Uh, huh.

Maude “Grandma” Supernaw
Interviewed by: Bill Supernaw, Jr.
Interview Date: 1965
Transcribed by: Rise Supernaw Proctor & Billy Supernaw Proctor
Subject: Stick Dance & Stomp Dance (1965 Interview)

Stick Dance & Stomp Dance
(1965 Interview)

 Bill: Did you ever have any dances out to the farm (1) a long time ago?

Grandma: Huh?

Bill: Did you ever have any dances out there a long time ago?

Grandma: Huh uh! They don’t have dance over there.

Bill: They don’t?

Grandma: Used, they used to want, uh, when I was girl, dance down at, uh, where the bridge cross there (Quapaw Creek).

Bill: Quapaw?

Grandma: Long time ago. Yeah, when I was a girl.

Bill: Oh!

Grandma: That’s where they have dance, the Stick Dance, down there. They call Stick Dance.

Bill: That’s, that’s a kind of a sa …. sacred dance isn’t it, a Stick Dance?

Grandma: Uh huh! special dance, a Stick Dance.

Bill: How’d they do that?

Grandma: Oh, they just had somebody sick something …. they told give them a …. dance, so special dance so, they have special dance. Corn, dried corn, like that, you know. Eight leader, uh, four leaders and ….

Bill: Four leaders.

Grandma: All rest of them dance if they want to. So, Grandpa (Tall Chief) sing and he, somebody helping, three men, there four singer. So he said they sing, so they’re special leaders, so, John Beaver take a lead lot, lots of time. Whenever they have a dance. So, they dance four round, four time, you know, rest and then they dance, uh, rest a while and then give everybody a smoke and when they get through with this, and start over again. They do that four time and then, quit and they take that stick away so, they give, they give singers, uh, uh, dried corn, and grandpa, give him a little bowl to eat and then all rest of them about, oh, eight dancer over there, give a bowl there, and a bowl there. Any corn left so, everybody come get corn, if they want to.

Bill: And that’s for that person that’s sick, huh?

Grandma: Yeah, Uh huh!

Bill: That’s the sick corn they had, ain’t it?

Grandma: Uh huh!

Bill: Sick Corn. They used to …. they ain’t no more of that are they?

Grandma: Uh huh!

Bill: Are there some more corn?

Grandma: Uh, dried corn, they eat.

Bill: Oh!

Grandma: They use dried corn.

Bill: Is there anything like a cook dance?

Grandma: Stick dance, they carry the stick ….

Bill: I mean did they ever have a cook dance up yonder too ….

Grandma: Huh uh!

Bill: They never did?

Grandma: Huh uh!

Icky: Ask her if they had shells in those days?

Bill: Did they have turtle shells them days, when they used to stomp?

Grandma: Huh?

Bill: Turtle shells?

Grandma: Huh uh! No!

Bill: Never did?

Grandma: ‘Till they get through, next day, uh, after they get through in that regular stomp dance then.

Bill: Oh, well they, they had, but they had turtle shells?

Grandma: Un huh! Yeah!

Bill: Yeah! Oh!

Grandma: Bill Bruner (Creek Indian) always come and another, another, woman, couple on horseback, come over the hill. That’s only one they come.

Bill: Had a lot of fun, huh?

Grandma: Uh huh! That’s a long time ago. So they, nobody ain’t going dance anymore cause my father singing and he gone, so, there ain’t no song, nobody going learn, all people help singing they die too, so, that’s all there is to it.

Bill: There’s not anybody that knows that stick dance song? Huh?

Grandma: Huh uh!

Icky: Ask her how old she was?

Bill: How old were you then?

Grandma: Oh! I was about, I was about, that three years old when I saw, we always, telling you about Quapaw Creek, and then down there in, uh, I was dancing about, uh, ten, fifteen years.

Bill: Do you know the song now (Stick Dance)?

Grandma: Huh uh!

Bill: You don’t.

Bill: You know a lot of songs though, huh?

Grandma: Huh uh!

Bill: You know any song ….

Grandma: Special songs, so I guess nobody going learn, just lost it, that’s all.

Bill: Oh!

Grandma: I supposed just follow that, uh, st …. uh lead, uh, Stick Dance and another woman she helped me, and it’s, uh, Chief daughter and they, she had, she danced and so she, I danced with her ever since I was small and that’s how, uh, they always help me, lead me, to dance, ‘till, ‘till I got big, ‘till they quit.

Bill: You was, you was the youngest one, huh?

Grandma: Uh huh! Yeah! Stick Dance. I supposed to, follow leader, that’s all.

Bill: Just eight, eight of them dance, four men, four women.

Grandma: Huh?

Bill: Four men and four women.

Grandma: Uh huh! All rest of them, they’re, any kind of ol’ order, they dance four, four lead, uh, four dancers. This one a special dance like me, follow him, Stick Dance, and is Chief daughter have to dance.

Bill: You said they have four leaders. Then one of them lead and the rest of leaders follow him?

Grandma: Yeah!

Bill: Then the women follow them?

Grandma: Yeah! Woman follow them ever, whoever they got him to dance. They, they dance in there.

Bill: Just eight people?

Grandma: Uh huh! Four.

Bill: Did they dance between the leaders or go along behind?

Grandma: Here’s leader and here’s four. Special leader get any woman dance with him.

Bill: Oh! Between them?

Grandma: Besides me.

Bill: I mean they dance between the men?

Grandma: Uh huh! Yeah!

(1) Mary Maude “Grandma”Supernaw’s Osage Allotment, west of Skiatook.

Maude “Grandma” Supernaw
Interviewed by: Bill Supernaw, Jr.
Interview Date: 1965
Transcribed by: Rise Supernaw Proctor & Billy Supernaw Proctor
Subject: Stomp Dance Grounds

Stomp Dance Grounds

Bill: Well, where was this stomp ground at? Used to be down there, you said, used to be one down there.

Grandma: Stomp Dance?

Bill: Stomp Ground, Stomp Dance.

Grandma: Oh, way down below (on Delware Creek) where, oh, Goodeagle, Goodeagle live, way out there stomp dance, back down there.

Bill: Down by Sperry?

Grandma: On, uh, Delaware Creek, way down. Right after you pass that, school house like you going Sand Springs, you know, you see, school house at, at Rock Creek, and you go down in there, that’s where Francis, uh, Goodeagle live there, that’s where that stomp dance is. That’s where they have the stomp dance, and uh, Shawnees and a few Creek there. They come to dance then.

Bill: Victor’s (Griffin) daddy lives back in there someplace? I mean, uh, buried back there.

Grandma: Uh huh.

Bill: Oh.

Grandma: They go hunting then, uh, summer. Uh, first, first time my dad stomp dance, I don’t know what month was it they, they go hunting, mans folks. Uh, three days they go hunting deer you know, and uh, they, they camp out, uh, anybody kill any deer they barbecue with it. They bring barbecue, so it won’t spoil. After three days they go and they come back, and that, that day everybody waiting for, uh, eat, eating the deer meat, then Shawnees, they all come down there. So, we always camp there, couple days before they come back, everybody, Quapaw, whoever cook, going to cook. So, when they come back, they, and they cook in that time. Oh, before they come in, they shoot like a, emptys gun, you know, everybody got a gun, you know, they shoot it out before they come in, so, after they come back, so. So, they get ready for supper then, so. Everybody come eat barbecue deer meat and they, and they boil in some …. and everybody eat then so, they all Shawnee come, that’s all. Just a few Quapaw around there, (live on Quapaw Creek), they all down there. They live around here, them Quapaw didn’t go back Quapaw country yet, so, that’s all.

Bill: Goodeagle, Goodeagles use to live here and ….

Grandma: Huh?

Bill: Goodeagles and who else use to live down here?

Grandma: Yeah! He used to live there, close to stomp dance ground. He take care of that stomp dance ground.


Maude “Grandma” Supernaw
Interviewed by: Bill Supernaw, Jr.
Interview Date: 1965
Transcribed by: Rise Supernaw Proctor & Billy Supernaw Proctor
Subject: Stomp Dance & Quapaw Dance

Stomp Dance & Quapaw Dance

 Icky: Bill, ask her if Grandpa ever led.

Bill: Huh?

Icky: Ask her if Grandpa ever led, Stomp Dance.

Bill: Supernaw?

Icky: Yeah, no, no!

Bill: Did Tall Chief ever lead stomp dance?

Grandma: Uh huh, yeah.

Bill: He did.

Grandma: He did take a lead.

Grandma: All time, huh?

Grandma: Uh huh, yeah, he take a lead.

Bill: Did Grandpa ….

Grandma: And he sing for people too, he sing for old men and sing for Osages, Coon Dance too.

Bill: Coon Dance. Oh!

Grandma: Uh, huh. First time that I went to White Oak like we always, we, I told you when I was small.

Bill: Yeah!

Grandma: And he, he sing for Quapaw there, we go two by two, but they, sure didn’t know, got all mixed up and turned around, but he, he made all right though. They call Quapaw Dance.

Maude “Grandma” Supernaw
Interviewed by: William “Kugee” Supernaw III
Interview Date: 1969
Transcribed by: Rise Supernaw Proctor & Billy Supernaw Proctor
Subject: Stick Dance & Stomp Dance (1969 Kugee Supernaw Interview)

Stick Dance & Stomp Dance
(1969 Kugee Supernaw Interview)

 Grandma: They, they used to have Stick Dance, long time ago. Uh, when they, sick people they had, you know. They give a dance, and they, special dance they always have …. special dance, and uh, they, they get well, so, and they want, only get to have dry corn, so, they have to come tell my father first. First thing, he’s going to sing, so they come after him, and uh, they come tell him, before that, you know, because they want him to come, so, and they all get ready go down there where they going to have a dance, you know they camp there, and uh, my father have to tell some them first, so. So, and he get ready go over there that, that day and they have dance that night. And he pick out, uh, eight dancer, four singer, four of them sing, and he one of them, that tell, he, he, he know all those song, each one, they want him sing, so he sing that. So they dance, one leader, special leader, they dance around, and uh, them dance, go around, I don’t know how many time go around, maybe, two, two, three times, maybe. And uh, they sit down and they give all, two waiter, uh, two man waits on them, they give all them smoke. Give my father drink then singer, they all rest of them give them smoke, because they dancing, eight dancer. So, and one, one woman special, chief daughter, she has, chief woman, daughter, special dancer. They pick out her, they always make, pick me out, I was little girl, but they, they pick me out too, so I dance too, I dance with that woman, and when they get through, when they get through smoking and they give water, and uh, after they get through they dance again. They do that four time, and uh, when they get through, they eat, they use dry corn. Uh, they give, uh, my father bowl, uh, dry corn and uh, and uh, singer give a bowl, eat all together. And they give that, that special dancer, eight of them, give them too, eat, four of them eats together and the other ones eat together. And uh, oh, after they get through and they carry that stick away that, uh, two waiter, they put that stick away, put back where, where they got it, you know. And uh, and uh, what corn left, everybody wants it, and, oh, that woman give, uh, these two eat dry corn and men, uh, they give little bit and we eat that and then, where the corn left, everybody go get it, like the Bread Dance, you know, what’s left everybody have it. Shawnee, they all come too, Bird Creek people, they all come down, come down there eat the corn. So, when they get through, so, they, they dance the stomp dance all night then. Just that special dance, that’s all they have, when they get through they, whatever they want to.

Kugee: Oh, yeah!

Grandma: Use to be dance over here at Quapaw Creek.